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Old 12-01-2014, 09:43 PM   #286
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Webvictim you should go crawl down the hole DaX just came out of

The facts speak for themselves,we were the most active,aggressive & tactful

We deserve this win after what we've been through at the start to get it,you just sound like a whinny b*tch now

As for the multis quite frankly I don't give a smeg,I've lost many nights sleep this round...ima chill now
I crawled out of the ban hole you all cried like children to have me thrown into.

The fact is, you are an idiot. You played like an idiot before, and you still play like one now. You play this "I lost too much sleep" BS, but you wouldn't know what hard work in Bushtarion looks like if it came right up to your big plump backside, and put its teeth about it.

The fact is, you're too much of a novice to be able to kill a multi. That's basically what you just said in a nutshell.
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Old 12-01-2014, 09:52 PM   #287
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Old 12-01-2014, 10:03 PM   #288
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Dude, i get that you had people UC etc, but surely thats what this game is all about.
Yeah, and I just congratulated you for exploiting a hole in our defence. That is indeed what this game is.

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As i have kept saying since Ascend had rank 1, they may not have had the busiest round but they played it as best they could, why would they get involved in a war they didn't need to be in?

to keep saying that they didn't deserve it is just plain wrong, if anything we are the idiots for fighting each other for so long and burning us both out
What I'm saying is that it's a totally hollow victory. For people like Stargazer to come out and claim that they were better than either BW or SP technically, tactically or activity-wise is a complete untruth and frankly laughable. It displays complete ignorance.

I do agree that we shouldn't have burnt each other out. You did sadly make your bed when it came to resistance though - you initially played Asc for utter fools by getting them to resist when SP weren't far ahead, letting them take all the losses while you got exactly what what you wanted - rank 1. The reason that Asc didn't see this coming or do anything about it is because they're just not experienced enough - they saw the opportunity for cheap, easy revenge after being humiliated and they took it without considering the consequences.

Then there was the fact that the cheap resistance meant we were constantly having to 2v1. I'm sure everyone knows this by now, but there were two reasons we hit sleep mode - one was to give ourselves the break that we sorely needed because we were completely burnt out, and the other was to force BW and Asc to fight because they weren't going to do it otherwise. It was effective on both fronts and one of the soundest decisions we made this round.

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Webvictim you should go crawl down the hole DaX just came out of

The facts speak for themselves,we were the most active,aggressive & tactful

We deserve this win after what we've been through at the start to get it,you just sound like a whinny b*tch now
This is hilarious. You got totally shat on early round due to utterly poor leadership and planning, then as soon as you started rebuilding you got played by BW for a resistance and just sucked it up. You ultimately won out in the fights with BW when we finally forced you to fight them because they were already tired from having been planning the attacks and fighting us constantly.

You need to get it into your head, Stargazer - you're not a competent or smart player, you're a mindless little bottom-feeder who gets tall by standing on the shoulders of others. The fact that you have a loud voice doesn't disguise what a dreadful player you are. A restarting thief that needs a 7-man escort to land? Don't make me laugh.
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Old 12-01-2014, 10:16 PM   #289
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Old 12-01-2014, 10:17 PM   #290
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You are all acting like children. Dax, I have mailed you several reports where we register significant kills on the multi. Maybe not utter destruction, but if the guy doesn't want to put his troops in the mixer then he doesn't want to put his troops in the mixer.

We are where we are through a combination of hard work and good fortune, and some opportune timing. I'm under no delusion that we were l33t. We just did what we could and ended up where we are. We fancied trying something a bit different with routes, got caught out early on, and took our chance when it came. To begrudge us a win smacks of bad sport. You beat us when we had no ranged LET to reply with (through route set up and bad teching) and we beat you guys after we had taken our opportunity against BW. No real straightforward fighting between us, which I can understand could leave you feeling dissatisfied with how everything has panned out.

Anyways, there's still plenty of time for rushes!!
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Old 12-01-2014, 10:34 PM   #291
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Also as a fact webvictim we were not played. We knew that unless the playing field was leveled between yourselves and BW, there was no chance of us getting back into the round. So we stayed on BRs we shouldn't have just to register kills. We wanted to enable you and BW to fight each other and keep taking score/troops off each other. Stopped us being raped for all our remaining land/troops. As for saying it was constantly 2v1, we hit you I think twice on total, getting a few BRs, then left the two of you to it whilst we grew.

We as a group (maybe stargazer excepted) do not believe we are the best ever at bushtation. But then I don't think anyone has earned that accolade this round.
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You're a good person and you speak sense. Earns respect from me.
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Old 12-01-2014, 10:55 PM   #293
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kudos on the 1-3T BR, but one BR in weeks is frankly appalling
it's more like 1-2T BR after calculating the value of converts and insurances zippo got. i wouldn't say 'kudos', but 'why dogs'? :S

i'm still not so convinced they are multis, though.
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kudos on the 1-3T BR, but one BR in weeks is frankly appalling
it's more like 1-2T BR after calculating the value of converts and insurances zippo got. i wouldn't say 'kudos', but 'why dogs'? :S

i'm still not so convinced they are multis, though.
is it just me, or is it that everytime these so called 'multi's' are mentioned, you pop up and say you aren't convinced they are multi's?
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Old 12-01-2014, 11:17 PM   #295
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Evidently I'm better than you ;-) =P lol
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Old 12-01-2014, 11:41 PM   #297
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kudos on the 1-3T BR, but one BR in weeks is frankly appalling
it's more like 1-2T BR after calculating the value of converts and insurances zippo got. i wouldn't say 'kudos', but 'why dogs'? :S

i'm still not so convinced they are multis, though.
I am fairly stringent in double checking all possibilities, and here is one thing that stands out very clearly to me:

Total scans made rankings:

1 5823 163 The 2nd Law Lawful
2 8627 10 Gardeners know the ground rules Evil
3 6262 80 666hell Proper
4 2784 116 The Ephemeral Edge Infamous
5 6868 30 I Roll Here On A Mean Unicorn Evil
6 9589 27 I want to be an airborne ranger Villainous
7 3096 18 Legend Respectable
8 4989 3 Azzer Made a Few Silly Achievements Vile
9 9919 62 Suddenly Sand Ninjas Sinister
10 4270 122 Auto-da-fe Admirable
11 7434 11 A Source Of Conflict Villainous
12 3618 32 Prime Evil
13 8428 160 Genius is knowing to stay quiet Ignoble
14 5455 35 chokochokochoko late boo Lawful
15 2057 82 Squirtle Dreaded
16 7040 64 Tobias 's Queen Mary Admirable
17 3020 39 The Usual Suspect Vile
18 7907 13 Godlybeing of Mofoisland Evil
19 9552 40 stupid Evil
20 6657 111 Silly Rabbit. Trix Are For Kids Prominent
21 2715 8 Unstoppable Momentum Vile
22 6761 119 Playing on the internet in my pants Infamous
23 6683 1 Duck Duck.... omnomnom Shark Villainous
24 9656 165 O.M.G. Admirable
25 9588 56 ehh Proper
26 9601 * 33 ComeSeeTheArsonFire Prominent 3,698
27 7474 216 noom Dreaded
28 5490 6 RANK 1 Vile
29 1091 15 The Demise of the World Dreaded
30 7477 89 Jill Phupitus Notable
31 6033 136 Shy Nudist Lawful
32 8935 195 Shot In The Dark Glorious
33 978 146 Charmander Villainous
34 9666 78 Don't worry. Be happy. Proper
35 9510 47 FFS_signed_up_for_another_round Villainous
36 6151 55 Shronock Dreaded
37 3113 68 JamesNchina Noble
38 2616 26 coca-cola Reputable
39 9716 145 Clawless Admirable
40 8149 22 Witness the art of combat Villainous


As you can see, a lot of these rankings are us solos. Now 3069 is in there, fair enough. But where are the other two players if they are legitimately refreshing and spying to watch their PNAP's back? They are nowhere to be found. This pattern continues as it goes downwards, giving me the impression they have done very few of their own scans. No single player can possibly scan this little whilst being a high-land, high-ranked solo player.

I rest my case, ladies and gents.
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kudos on the 1-3T BR, but one BR in weeks is frankly appalling
it's more like 1-2T BR after calculating the value of converts and insurances zippo got. i wouldn't say 'kudos', but 'why dogs'? :S

i'm still not so convinced they are multis, though.
I don't know. Even if it were 3 competitive players who pranked each other, there would be the occasional time where 1 of them wouldn't be able to get online. So far from what I've seen, they get up and go to sleep at the same time and they always attack and defend at the same time. That is too coincidental for me to believe that it is 3 players, rather than a multi.
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Old 12-01-2014, 11:44 PM   #299
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I feel that there are a few things that need clearing up here.

First of all, the route setup. While it was unusual the idea behind it was that we would be strong late-game, this did of course mean that we sacrificed some firepower early in the round. Too many players developing hacking was silly but we all learnt from it.

Quite a few of us are new to ftw play but there were only two, maybe three players in the starting line-up that were relatively new to the game. To claim that we stayed because we are inexperienced is not a fair argument. We did, throughout the round, what was necessary to either win or give ourselves the best chance of winning.

In terms of who was better, my only comment I can make on that front are that in Ascendancy we had a better balance of cover throughout the day. SP were considerably weaker in the day, whereas BW had what seemed to be lower night activity, both of which we did our best to exploit.

As leader, seeing the team I had put in the effort they did, I believe that we deserve the win. The fact is we did come back from having no troops once and having very little a second time, and did so in the best way we saw fit. If you don't agree that we deserve it then that's your opinion, but saying we have a lack of experience and that we were played is just wrong.
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